I haven't but I think if it's close, experience, coaching , and leadership play a big part. All these Toledo kids saw experience in the Dome last yr, 2 of their best players started here last yr and the first two kids off the bench this yr are starting and 3 others that were there are in the rotation. They played a good White River team there at the Xmas tournament this yr and beat them, and then also beat Issaquah. They're playing real comfortable and loose right now, having exceeded everyones expectations because of their graduation last yr. I think it will come down to Okanogan being able to step in and get comfortable in the state experience in the Dome. I know they have some really good players, and it sounds like the Rivas kid may be a matchup issue, but Toledo has great size and can handle the physical style of play at that level.