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Originally posted by SOHOAFFAIR:
We're all assuming that he would not have come to Michigan to RS in his first year as he could be getting paid right now overseas. But maybe it would be a good thing for him to get up to speed on the academics for a year, and put on some weight/muscle while watching for a year. Any chance that is the direction this goes?
Tough to find minutes at the four, and Coach B has always said unless the guy is going to play 15 or so minutes then he might as well redshirt. That was his stance on Donnal two years ago and Wilson this year
Although we're all still down on Donnal, he still has three years left - I am excited to see how he progresses - this might turn into one of those things where he really blossoms, and we're left saying, wow imagine if he didn't have that 5th year and instead played a few minutes here or there as a true freshman
No reason for him the redshirt. He is not going to be here for 5 years.Originally posted by SOHOAFFAIR:
We're all assuming that he would not have come to Michigan to RS in his first year as he could be getting paid right now overseas. But maybe it would be a good thing for him to get up to speed on the academics for a year, and put on some weight/muscle while watching for a year. Any chance that is the direction this goes?
Tough to find minutes at the four, and Coach B has always said unless the guy is going to play 15 or so minutes then he might as well redshirt. That was his stance on Donnal two years ago and Wilson this year
Although we're all still down on Donnal, he still has three years left - I am excited to see how he progresses - this might turn into one of those things where he really blossoms, and we're left saying, wow imagine if he didn't have that 5th year and instead played a few minutes here or there as a true freshman
Well I think the redshirt question will answer itself based on how much of an impact he can make. No need to decide this now. Let him get here and see what he can do in beileins systemOriginally posted by GABLUE1:
No reason for him the redshirt. He is not going to be here for 5 years.Originally posted by SOHOAFFAIR:
We're all assuming that he would not have come to Michigan to RS in his first year as he could be getting paid right now overseas. But maybe it would be a good thing for him to get up to speed on the academics for a year, and put on some weight/muscle while watching for a year. Any chance that is the direction this goes?
Tough to find minutes at the four, and Coach B has always said unless the guy is going to play 15 or so minutes then he might as well redshirt. That was his stance on Donnal two years ago and Wilson this year
Although we're all still down on Donnal, he still has three years left - I am excited to see how he progresses - this might turn into one of those things where he really blossoms, and we're left saying, wow imagine if he didn't have that 5th year and instead played a few minutes here or there as a true freshman
I think it's still too early to pencil Duncan Robinson into the regular rotation. Let's wait and see how he does at the D1 level under the lights. Not that I don't think he will be good, but there isn't any hard evidence that he will be better than Kam or Wagner by the time they hit B10 regular seasonOriginally posted by northvineinc:
comes down to whether (if) Kam or Wagner plays; Spike or MAAR plays; Wilson or Donnel plays.
playing: Walton/Caris + Spike or MAAR total 3
playing: Irvin/Dawkins/Robinson + Kam/Wagner ....one will sit, one MAY play....total 3
playing: Doyle + either Donnel/Wilson.....one sits ....total 2
Beilein MAYBE goes to nine........10 is out, unless he turns into somebody else.
There will be three guys who never play, who you think are "good" (Kam, MAAR, Donel/Wilson?)....but you probably won't think they're good, because they won't get looks......and this is all vs B1G competition; vs. the directional schools you will see the 10+ rotation.
Posted from Rivals MobileOriginally posted by acl1983:
I think it's still too early to pencil Duncan Robinson into the regular rotation. Let's wait and see how he does at the D1 level under the lights. Not that I don't think he will be good, but there isn't any hard evidence that he will be better than Kam or Wagner by the time they hit B10 regular seasonOriginally posted by northvineinc:
comes down to whether (if) Kam or Wagner plays; Spike or MAAR plays; Wilson or Donnel plays.
playing: Walton/Caris + Spike or MAAR total 3
playing: Irvin/Dawkins/Robinson + Kam/Wagner ....one will sit, one MAY play....total 3
playing: Doyle + either Donnel/Wilson.....one sits ....total 2
Beilein MAYBE goes to nine........10 is out, unless he turns into somebody else.
There will be three guys who never play, who you think are "good" (Kam, MAAR, Donel/Wilson?)....but you probably won't think they're good, because they won't get looks......and this is all vs B1G competition; vs. the directional schools you will see the 10+ rotation.
I'm not saying that he won't be a starter or play starters minutes, it just seems like he's being penciled in before playing a single game. I remember hearing about Lavell Lucas-Perry being the next great Michigan PG from his practices when he transferred in, and obviously that never transpired.Originally posted by ChrisBalas:
I'd take that bet. Beilein said it was the least of his concerns once he saw him shine in d 3 championships. And he's been a top three guy in practice.
Posted from Rivals MobileOriginally posted by acl1983:
I think it's still too early to pencil Duncan Robinson into the regular rotation. Let's wait and see how he does at the D1 level under the lights. Not that I don't think he will be good, but there isn't any hard evidence that he will be better than Kam or Wagner by the time they hit B10 regular seasonOriginally posted by northvineinc:
comes down to whether (if) Kam or Wagner plays; Spike or MAAR plays; Wilson or Donnel plays.
playing: Walton/Caris + Spike or MAAR total 3
playing: Irvin/Dawkins/Robinson + Kam/Wagner ....one will sit, one MAY play....total 3
playing: Doyle + either Donnel/Wilson.....one sits ....total 2
Beilein MAYBE goes to nine........10 is out, unless he turns into somebody else.
There will be three guys who never play, who you think are "good" (Kam, MAAR, Donel/Wilson?)....but you probably won't think they're good, because they won't get looks......and this is all vs B1G competition; vs. the directional schools you will see the 10+ rotation.
Originally posted by 711Arbor:
I've given up on Donnal. At some point you have to have some competitive fire in your belly to play and contribute. If he was awkward but showed a fighting spirit, I'd have hope. He seems like the type of kid that would hand over his lunch money to the bully everyday. If there has to be attrition, I'd like to see Donnal's scholarship open up.
Freshman year - 1.8ppg 1.4 reboundsOriginally posted by 711Arbor:
I've given up on Donnal. At some point you have to have some competitive fire in your belly to play and contribute. If he was awkward but showed a fighting spirit, I'd have hope. He seems like the type of kid that would hand over his lunch money to the bully everyday. If there has to be attrition, I'd like to see Donnal's scholarship open up.
It's a better argument than this.....Originally posted by 711Arbor:
And I could name 101 players with those same stats that never did anything. That's a terrible argument. And it's not about his skill set, it's about his demeanor.